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Post by iona on Jun 22, 2005 8:35:36 GMT -5
I was wondering how many of you were a cigarrete smoker when diagnosed the BO. I think that smoking has a lot to do too eeg quality.
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Post by amyldougj on Jun 22, 2005 10:45:44 GMT -5
I'm a smoker and have been since I was a teen and I have 3 children. I dont think smoking has that much to do with it. Amy
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Post by justinsmomma on Jun 22, 2005 11:22:28 GMT -5
Hi there,
This is what I found on smoking pre-pregnancy:
Smoking makes it harder to conceive, irrespective of which partner smokes.
Both female and male smokers have lower fertility levels, while adults who were born to mothers who smoked have less chance of becoming a parent themselves. Smoking also reduces the chances of IVF succeeding.
It's thought nicotine reduces a woman's fertility by affecting the production of hormones that are necessary for pregnancy. Smoking also impedes the transportation of the egg through the Fallopian tubes to the womb.
Minimizing the Risk of Miscarriage
Don't smoke. Smoking increases the risk of losing a genetically normal baby. One study showed that women who smoked more than 14 cigarettes a day were about twice as likely to miscarry, regardless of their age or use of alcoholic beverages. The risk of losing a pregnancy increases with the number of cigarettes a woman smokes. On the other hand, giving up smoking at any time during the pregnancy will benefit the baby. Since passive smoke is also dangerous, it's wisest if no one in your household smokes during the pregnancy.
HTH,
Kris
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Post by kurby68 on Jun 22, 2005 12:18:19 GMT -5
Kris you nailed it right on the head!!! My dh smokes I do not. I also have read that not only all the problems before you are pg and during pg but then your baby has a higher chance of getting ear infections, respiratory problems and dying of SIDS.
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Post by kkgg on Jun 22, 2005 12:59:55 GMT -5
Both my DH and myself are ex-smokers. We quit smoking before we started trying to conceive. I don't know if it can continue to affect you for the rest of your life or not, but I guess it wouldn't surprise me. I have seen some women who continue to smoke through their entire pregnancy with no problems, but I believe that they are the exception, not the rule. I have often wondered if I had a B/O because of my history, but I probably will never know.
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Post by Blighted Ovum Board Admin on Jun 22, 2005 14:07:15 GMT -5
I'm an ex-smoker, I was a smoker when I got pregnant with the first child (my blighted ovum). I felt horrible, it was an unintended pregnancy and I felt the blame was on me for what happened. The Dr. told me that it can affect fertility and implantation but that it cannot cause a blighted ovum. I'm told that smoking is theorized to interfere with the sperm fertilizing the embryo. I hate to even admit this here, but I was smoking with I got pregnant the other two times but quit right away after I found out I was pregnant. I stayed quit the last time. Smoking absolutely does cause higher chances for SIDS and ear infections and such. I had a terrible time with not smoking between my son and my daughter. Because of what they told me about second hand smoke on my hands or clothes I covered up when I went outside (including hair) or would change clothes and scrubbed my hands and arms before I'd touch my son. I finally quit for good using Wellbutrin. Before that I'd tried the patch, gum, hypnosis and acupuncture. I wanted so badly to just quit but I couldn't seem to do it. Knowing I was having a second child somehow put me over that edge and suddenly even after I could have smoked again after having her it wasn't appealing (thank heavens). It's definately important not to smoke around kids (I was a low birthweight baby because of this and had chronic ear infections as a child). It's also definately a good idea to not smoke while pregnant and to quit well before trying to conceive. I know so well though that it's easy for non-smokers to say and is very difficult to do (but totally worth it as I can attest, I feel so much better healthwise and more about myself). I'd just be really careful not to assign blame for someone smoking. What's happened has happened and laying that on oneself or someone else is more of a burden and just adds to the hurt. There are so many factors that come together, it is really hard to know regardless. If you want to run a poll on this I think there is a poll function for this forum. That way there is an educational component but I want to discourage people from saying anything that will make anyone feel worse than they already do now.
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Post by iona on Jun 22, 2005 15:01:27 GMT -5
As far as I know and for all the researches I´ve done so far, I would say that smoking before getting or even during the 1st trimester pregnant would cause the same damge as taking too much caffeine . I am not a coffee lover but I´m a smoker and loves diet coke which has lots of caffeine. Smoking and caffeine really affects the implantation and development, consequentely the blighted ovum has a lot to do with these , since a blighted ovum is a pregnancy that didn´t develop properly . Either the sperm and egg quality are 100% related to a blightedovum, so next time make sure you quit smoking and caffeine a lot before ttc. I can tell you this from my own experiences, after having 2 partial molar pregnancies, one pregnancy full term and now facing a blighted ovum. The only time I was smoking and having caffeine I did had a pregnancy full term. It could be a coincidence, but I don´t believe so.
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Post by reedstephstuff on Jun 22, 2005 15:40:09 GMT -5
Although I agree with all the medical advise and agree that is is probably a risk in getting pregnant, being pregnant, and post-partum issues; I also feel that each pregnancy is mainly based on that specific situation.... Unless otherwise diagnosed with a fertility issue or the inability to carry through a pregnancy.... At least, this is what I like to believe having smoked for a long time and having recently gone back to it after my most recent M/C.... It's a tough call! Obviously, smoking is BAD. I on the other hand, feel like after the 2 m/c this year that I deserve to be bad! So long as I don't behave badly around my son....
Steph
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Post by kurby68 on Jun 22, 2005 22:02:48 GMT -5
I know a few people that have had m/c and some that were b/o's and neither person smoked, did drugs or drank. They led very healthy lifestyles. The dr's said that times it is just the way that egg or sperm developed and/or something didn't work after the 2 combined.
There are no gaurantees.
Take care
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Post by justinsmomma on Jun 23, 2005 4:12:45 GMT -5
Just to clarify what Steph said, sometimes blighted ovums are caused by other factors. "A blighted ovum (also known as “anembryonic pregnancy”) happens when a fertilized egg attaches itself to the uterine wall, but the embryo does not develop." Certainly egg and sperm quality is an issue but sometimes progesterone is a factor, in that the embryo cannot receive proper oxygenation and/or nourishment, or a woman has immune or blood clotting problems, etc. that inhibit fetal growth. To say that it is all "egg or sperm" that determines pregnancy is very simplistic. Of course, knowing what smoking "can" do and continuing to do it isn't smart. However I have done it myself and I can't say that it wasn't a major factor in the guilt I felt after both my b/o's. My first pregnancy resulted shortly after my 30th birthday extravaganza (read: food and smoke LOL) celebration. My 2nd I was under a lot of stress, I quit smoking on Valentines Day after returning to it for about 5 mos. and got PG by Mar. 6. I carried that pregnancy to term. My 3rd, I was returning to smoking a bit, got pregnant, and another b/o. However, I came to find out that my pregnancy losses were due to blood clotting issues. So most likely smoking had nothing at all to do with my personal situation of losing two babies. My Mom smoked through all her pregnancies (5) and suffered one m/c. My friend smoked through both her pregnancies and didn't take prenatals and has two healthy children. It is simply a roll of the dice to do things that are unhealthy for you when TTC.
Anyway this is a very interesting thread. HUGS sounds like we all have slightly different opinions. Keeps things lively. ;0)
HUGS
Kris
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