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Post by liv9404 on Feb 21, 2009 10:19:53 GMT -5
Hi everyone,
I'm 23 and just found out last week (at 8 weeks) that my first pregnancy is a BO. It is very depressing and heart wrenching but I told myself at first that I would wait for a natural miscarriage to happen. Now I am 9 weeks with no spotting or anything, and I am beginning to think about getting a D&C, but I have some major fears.
I read that the chances of developing Asherman's Syndrome (scarring of the uterus) is about 30% for missed miscarriages (which is what a blighted ovum is, right?) Also I heard that the risk is higher the longer period there is in between the surgery and the demise of the fetus. Well the doctor told me that the fetus never began to develop but the sac did, so that means there's 8-9 weeks of time in between demise and potential surgery. The time in between will probably be higher because if I do go this route I probably will wait until 11 weeks.
Does anyone have any insight on whether b/o follow the same guidelines, because we are different cases (the sacs do continue to grow).
Any help would be appreciated, as I am scared of the risks, and my husband and I want children so incredibly bad and don't want to risk my fertility.
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Post by existential27 on Feb 21, 2009 13:27:07 GMT -5
I'm so sorry for your loss. I don't know anything about Asherman's syndrome. My BO was diagnosed earlier, and I had a D&C at 7 weeks, when I started bleeding heavily. There are risks with both natural miscarriage and D&Cs-- I would say the risks are pretty similar, and it ultimately comes down to your personal choice.
In my pregnancy that followed my BO, I ended up having placenta previa, which my perinatologist told me was likely caused by uterine scarring from my D&C. Uterine scarring can also just be a result of regular pregnanies. The placenta previa was not a big deal-- I just ended up having a c-section, and DS was born at 35 weeks, very healthy. If there was scarring from the D&C, it didn't prevent me from getting pregnant or having a baby. Endless women here have gone on to have successful, healthy pregnancies after D&Cs and natural miscarriages. Personally, I would be more concerned about the risk of heavy bleeding as time goes on, and I hope your doctor let you know to seek medical attention immediately if you start soaking more than a pad an hour.
I honestly don't think you will be risking your fertility regardless of whether you have a natural miscarriage or D&C. BOs are just a fluke, and you still have every reason to believe right now you will go on to have children in the future.
I wish you the best!
Hugs, KC
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Post by Lisa on Feb 23, 2009 0:07:26 GMT -5
I would go for the D&C for sure. I have had 2 and one MC with the pills. The D&C you are over and done with in day. I am sorry for your loss and I hope the process starts to move forward for you. Keep us posted on your decision!!! Lisa
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Post by kathmlm on Feb 23, 2009 12:02:41 GMT -5
First of all, I'm very sorry for your loss. But I'm glad you found our board.
I have to ask where you read that statistic: it seems very high and unrealistic to me. If you read it on the internet, don't believe everything you read there.
I had one at almost 12 weeks. I had no problems at all and was pregnant again in 6 months.
Speak with your doctor, he/she will give you correct information and you can make your decision. Good luck, we're all thinking of you!
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Post by daffylexer on Feb 23, 2009 13:47:20 GMT -5
I'm so sorry for you loss. You've come a wonderful place not just for answers, but also for support, and I'm glad you found us.
I decided to m/c naturally. I was diagnosed at about 8 weeks and even though I knew in my heart that I had lost my baby, I felt I had to have my body tell me and not just the dr. I think there are pros and cons to both going natural and having a D/C, and so what it comes down to is what feels right in your heart. If you're leaning towards a D/C but are worried about scaring, talk to your dr about doing the suction procedure instead.
If you decide to go natural, but want to speed things up a bit, you can take Aleve or Advil as both will induce miscarriage (it's what my dr recommended). Or you can drink Raspberry Leaf tea as it will do the same. Also, talk to your dr about getting a pain prescription just in case you need it. OTC's did nothing for the pain I had (it was exactly like labor, and horrible), and I had to wait hours for my DH to get off of work and get home with the prescription my dr called in. Please keep in mind though that the longer you wait, the increase risk of heavey bleeding. Regardless of what you decide, if you bleed through a pad an hour, call your dr or go to the ER.
Remember we're here if you need us.
Big hugs, Alexa
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Post by Lauren on Feb 23, 2009 14:10:51 GMT -5
First of all, let me say how sorry I am for your loss. I have had two blighted ovum miscarriages, and both were very sad for me, so I know how sad you must be feeling right now. With my first BO, I had a D & C. I had no complications, and got pregnant 3 months after ad had a healthy baby girl. For my second, I got it into my head that I did not want a D & C, and that is I had a natural miscarriage, then it would prove it was not meant to be. I thought that would be easier, but in reality, I think I found it easier to have the D & C. I had horrible headaches for several weeks with the natural miscarriage, which my doctor said was due to the hormones. Neither is a fun thing to go through, and it is a personal decision of what you are more comfortable, but I would not fear a D & C in terms of complications. I think they are rare. Thinking of you, Lauren
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Post by liv9404 on Feb 23, 2009 19:43:29 GMT -5
Thank you so much everyone for all your support and advice. This is such a crappy situation to be in, but I'm starting to realize I'm not the first and I wont be the last. I just never thought this would happen to me ya know! I actually went out to eat with 4 friends the other night and realized that 3 of the 4 of them have had miscarriages (1 has had 2) and the one who hasn't has never been pregnant. It's so much more common than anyone thinks, and I just wish people were more open about it. I opened up to the administration at my work about what I was going through, and they were sooo supportive. I'm so glad I found this community though, as you all know exactly what I'm going through. I found out 1 week and 2days ago, at the moment I am 9 weeks 3 days and nothing has happened yet. I got my diagnosis from an ER doctor at 8 weeks and I have a tilted uterus so I'm going in for a second opinion hopefully in the next week and a half with a real OB, so that he/she can give me some peace of mind. I'm trying really hard to get my hopes up that it was misdiagnosed but it's hard not to when you still feel pregnant. I guess I'll hope for teh best plan for the worst. The good thing is I have already taken the last week 1/2 and grieved for my lost child and as they say it gets a little better everyday. As for now I'd like to go the natural route but if nothing occurs by 12/13 weeks, I'll probably go in for the D&E (it's supposed to be a little less risky than the D&C). As for the statistics, Kathleen, I did find them online .... I should know better, but I get so caught up in statistics at times of desperation. Again, ladies thank you so much for the support, you definilty make this unbearable situation a little more bearable. God Bless!
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Post by mle24dec on Feb 23, 2009 19:44:20 GMT -5
Hello there. I am so sorry for your loss. I had a bo a few years ago. I was never quite sure how far along I was supposed to be, but I was more than 6 weeks. I'm guessing closer to 8. I chose to have a D&E because I needed closure. I, too was concerned about the risks, but I had no problem at all. I remember asking my doctor and he said the risks were minimal. I think speaking with your doc would be a good idea. Ask him how many of his patients have had complications from having a d&c. Please know we are here for you. I hope you are able to come to a decision that feels right for you. (((HUGS))) Michelle
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Post by mle24dec on Feb 23, 2009 19:47:47 GMT -5
We must've posted at the same time I just read that you were diagnosed via an ER doc. May I ask whether they did any blood work at all? Usually a bo is confirmed via a minumum of 2 ultrasounds and/or at least 2 or 3 blood draws. Normal HCG doubles in about 48 hours. If it is not rising appropriately or if it goes down, it gives a confimation. I would definitely want to make sure it is a bo before proceeding further. As you already know, they can misdiagnose them...more frequently with a tilted uterus.
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Post by liv9404 on Feb 24, 2009 6:56:50 GMT -5
They did blood work when I first got there (but being Canadian I was there for 8 hours). My HCG was high, I don't remember the exact number but it was like 13,000 or something, which proved that I was more than 6 weeks along. The doctor said I had to be 8 weeks because of my last missed period, but I truly believe I could have been only 6 weeks because I think I ovulated later based on charting (i did only mucus charting so I could have been wrong). Anyways, after I got the blood test they did the ultrasound transvaginal and the tech didn't tell me anything except that she was having trouble because my uterus was tipped to the left. Then I had to go back and wait for hours and the ER doctor finally came and said that I had a blighted ovum and I should call this OB on wednesday and get a D&C. I asked him if there was any hope and he said no.
I'm definitely getting a second opinion, I can't stand the thought of getting a D&C with the possibility of there being a live child in my womb.
Thanks for the advice
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Post by daffylexer on Feb 24, 2009 11:04:03 GMT -5
I think a second opinin is a good idea. HCG numbers varry alot from week to week. At 5 weeks my numbers were already 10,000, which means they would have been well over 13,000 at 6 weeks. And if you have a tilted uterus it can make it difficult to see anything, especially if you're only 6 weeks. Even w/o a tilted uterus, 6 weeks may be too soon to see anything. Keep us updated on what happens, and good luck!!!! I'll keep my fingers crossed.
Alexa
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Post by dambrre on Dec 11, 2013 10:56:41 GMT -5
I am so sorry anyone has to go through this- I want to start with my story in hope this will bring comfort to someone, me and my husband just got married 9/14/2013. We wanted to start TTC right away, we got that lovely pregnancy test that read POSITIVE!! we we're over the moon my obgyn wanted to wait to see us until we were at least 8-10 weeks. Felt like the lonest couple of weeks to wait!!!!! me and hubby we're so excited to see out lil baby on the sono screen and out biggest nightmare came true. I knew right away that something wasn't right by the look on the techs face, I kept asking is everything ok is everything ok I don't see anything. She asked me if I had any bleeding or cramping I told her no not at all. I looked up in the air and cried and cried my husband had to ask the rest of the questions for us. She said I had what is called a blighted ovum, never in my life have I every hear of such a thing or knew such a thing existed. She went onto explain that something went wrong with the pregnancy and showed us what a 8 week sac with yolk should look like. I was so lost, empty and confused. The tech left the room and told us she was sorry. She said we will be meeting with another dr in a little while. I was so upset I couldn't get dressed, my husband had to get my clothes on, how could this happen I feel pregnant no bleeding or cramping!!! What did I do wrong? ? Shortly after my nurse practitioner came in she is wonderful I was supposed to be seeing her today for my exam, she does my yearly's as well. As soon as I saw her face I cried and cried and all she could say was this happens all the time, I asked what did I do?? She said nothing it just didn't happen. She told me I was going to meet with another dr and I said why cant I just meet with you. She told me she is not trained in these things nor does d&c. D&C!?? NOOO that's when everything got foggy from there. Another nurse came in and brought us to another room. We met with another dr who was very dry and right to the point, older man who said he has been doing this for a very long time. He said maybe just maybe if I wait a week we might see something but its very unlikely. He said it could be too early to see anything, but again he said its very unlikely after he looked at my sono pictures and said I had a 7 week looking sac. He gave us our options, ideally he said the best would be I would pass on my own, he could give me medicine to start the miscarriage up or the dreaded d&c. I left the office still upset I knew in my heart this was the end. I thought how are we going to tell our families this?? They were all so supportive and I thank God I didn't have to go through this alone. I got home and goggled everything under the sun, all false blighted ovum's and success stories. I cried for 2 days straight., Thanksgiving was a couple days later and me and my husband and our 7 year old daughter traveled to VA to visit his family. The week and a half was grueling for me all I wanted to do was pass it on my own if that's the way it was going to be. The thought of a D&C scared me to know end. The week and a half was here, again I knew in my heart I would see the same sono picture with nothing. I was right. The nurse apologized and said we would be meeting again with the dry older dr. This time he seemed like a new person, very sweet, he told us he was sorry and had the bad news. He told us it was nothing we did wrong and our chances of TTC were not affected and is sure that we would go on to have a healthy pregnancy. He told me he highly recommended to "empty my uterus" I thought no no not a D&C, he told us the procedure was so easy and 15 minutes at the most. He went on to tell us I could wait to miscarry on my own but there's no telling when that would be, he also was concerned with infection and bleeding being that the size of my sac has grow, my body was still feeding the pregnancy hormone. He told us if we do miscarry on our own the chances of me not passing everything were high and I would still end up needing the D&C. I cried and cried I wanted this naturally, but I knew my husband needed his wife back and our daughter needed her mommy back 100%. I just wanted it over to move on and start healing emotionally and physically and of course start to try again. We were able to meet with another nurse to schedule my D&C for that Friday at one, I thought how am I going to go through with this. I spent the next two days crying and being scared to know end, the morning came for the day of my surgery and I was a nervous wreck I didn't want to be put to sleep I didn't want to be hooked up to an IV. I prayed and prayed to have nice nurses and dr because that makes a world of difference. We got to the hospital at 10:30, we we're given this little buzzer, kind of like when your at a restaurant and your table is ready We didn't have to fill out any paper work my obgyn office was able to get all my information over for me, well the buzzer went off this is it!!!! I immediately began to get teary eyed and choked up. (The fear of the unknown) they told me to walk down to another desk, my hubby was not allowed to come they said once I'm all prepped he can come visit. The second desk had a nurse waiting to let me though the big double doors, as soon as I entered my room and saw my SWEEEEET nurse, hospital gown and (ugly socks) I busted out crying. But before the nurse saw me cry she said how are you and then the tears started, she said "ok this is normal and understandable, you are going to be just fine I promise". Immediately I felt better. She could tell I was very nervous and told me she would have a treat for me after I met with the anesthesiologist. She said if I like wine ill love her forever, she was going to give me some soothing meds and its like a bottle of wine without the calories. I was reluctant at first, I don't like the outer body experience and not being in control, I think that's why the whole putting me to sleep freaked me out so much! She asked me some more health history, some crazy question I might add a lot we just laughed through. I met with the anesthesiologist and he was a fun guy! Told me everything that he was going to do and how I would feel when I woke up and got home. Then the knees started to shake and she told me she would get my husband so I could have this zero calorie wine, she felt it was important my husband see me before any soothing meds were given. Like I said I was reluctant at first so she said she didn't want me to feel pressured but she is treating me like a little sister, again sweet nurse, world of difference. She gave me half of the syringe through my iv and what a help!! Knees instantly stopped shaking and we we're able to talk and laugh. Then my sweet nurse had to head out for lunch and then the knees started to knock again, she gave me the rest of the wine me and my husband shared a few good laughs. The dr who was going to preform the surgery came in sat down with me and told me everything step by step, was so sweet him and my husband were able to laugh and joke about some football. The sweet nurse came back into check on me and told me the OR room is running behind, I'm ready to get this over with. Another nurse comes into my room who was also very kind introduces himself to us and asks my husband to head out because the dr was ready for me. The kind nurses gives me some more wine which was great and fun little ride to the OR room,once I got to the OR room all I can remember is a whole lot of lights and sweet voices, telling me I was going to do just fine. They told me they were going to give me an oxygen mask for some air, after that I was going going gone, waking up in recovery!!!!!!! I actually woke up as they were wheeling me back into my room and felt great! Just a little crampy like a normal period ( I typically have rough ones) I got to see my husband right away, and they asked me what I wanted to drink because I had to pee before they would send me home. I chugged apple juice and water to get the heck out of there. I was gone in no time, I told my husband family and friends you were all right it was nothing! The best sleep I ever had! However,The moral of this story is that I was scared just like YOU, I will be ok and so will YOU! Not at all throughout this post have you heard me say omg I was in so much pain, that was the scariest thing I ever went through, not at all. I am again so glad I decided to have this pregnancy removed and not wait around for it to pass on its own. I don't want to say this is what every woman should do, however this is what was right for me. Today is the day after my surgery and I feel great. It does not hurt to walk, I had a ball at my daughters first basketball game of the season, I was shopping at Target as well I'm a little sore in my right arm where they gave me a shot to dilate my cervix. I only know about this shot because I asked why is my arm a little sore, and they explained. They said sometimes the dr will give it to you in your hip or arm. All in all yesterday was anything but traumatic, I hope that if this is something that you will be experiencing soon this story will help. Truly the worst part was the silly IV or maybe having to be woken up for that lovely slumber. However, I am not above admitting that I still feel a pinch of sadness whenever I remember that "oh yeah I will not be having a baby in July nor picking out any baby names or registering for my baby shower"- right now there is no baby. However I am definitely on the mend. I also feel people should not have to be so hush hush about a miscarriage or d&c it does truly just make it more scary when its not, my only wish is that I hope what I've shared here will help people know what to expect and to not feel so lonely or afraid. Despite all of this I was surprised how quickly I got over things on an emotional and physical level. I hope you don't think I'm heartless but I have cried and cried about the lack of baby since the day I have found out until yesterday. This information is personal to me and my husband, but I feel I had to share my story because I know in the bottom of my heart I'm not the only woman going though this. This is the kind of post I wish I found on all night Google searches. If you are going through this please please know that you will be OKAY. Please know that I am praying and thinking of you! If you want to reach out please please do I would love to be that person to bring you any comfort. God bless you ALL>
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Post by rumen on Dec 10, 2014 0:32:35 GMT -5
I took 4 tablets of misoprostol through my virginal and the oda two through my mouth. I don't feel any pains or what ever in my body. Pls someone help me
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