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Post by amber on Oct 4, 2006 23:49:40 GMT -5
June of 2005 I lost my first Pregnancy to a Blighted Ovum. I had a D/C done and it was confirmed as blighted. I did lots of research and all I have learnned is its possibly connected with chromosome Problems. Both what I have learned on the web. and what my Doc. has told me it's not likely to happen more than once. Well I am Pg again I should be 7 weeks today. I went in for my First Ultrasound today and they said again, I have a Blighted Ovum. How could this Happen? and twice in a row? my Doctor is stumped. He said it's not likely but possible and it seems it has happened again..is there something wrong with me? how will I know If this is going to happen again in the future? I have never felt so lost....should i go in for genetic testing? I am overcome with grief and just more questions. I really needs some good advice. ??? :'(
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Post by sunprincess78 on Oct 5, 2006 0:33:25 GMT -5
I am soo sorry for your losses. I have only had one.,but some here have had several b/o and have gotten testing. Some show nothing or unexplained and others have found issues like clotting, progesterone, etc. They usually say after 2 they can start testing for problems. I would start testing, just know that many women here and that I know have had 2 or 3 m/c or b/o and have gone on to have successful pregnancies.
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Post by arkoch on Oct 5, 2006 3:45:49 GMT -5
Hi Amber, I am SOO sorry for your loss. I know how you feel. I have also had two losses. My first was in December of 05, and my second was in May of 06. After my second loss I had the testing done as I am only 23 and in great health. I don't have a family history of m/c, I'm not over/underweight, don't smoke/drink.... eat healthy... Anyways, they did genetic testing on the tissue from my second m/c, and that all came back normal. THey also did a complete blood test workup on me, testing for clotting issues, hormones, ect, and everything there has come back normal. There is no reason that they can find for my two losses. They do usually say that BO m/c are due to genetic problems. That a bad egg and/or bad sperm joined and didn't produce a viable pregnancy. My DH and I just decided this last month to ttc again. It is very much of an emotional roller coaster for both of us. We both want children so bad, yet the prospect of loosing another baby scares us to death. I am so sorry for what you are going through. I hope that if you do have testing done that it will give you some answers. You're in my thoughts and prayers. ~Alisha
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Post by boots on Oct 5, 2006 3:50:07 GMT -5
Amber, I am so very sorry for this and your previous loss. It is such a difficult time b/c we are grieving and also trying to understand why this happens to us. As sunpricess said, there are things the doc can test for and also things you can do as a 'just in case' that have worked for some here. If you are going to a general practice/family doctor, first I suggest he send you to an OB and preferably one that is very current with research and issues.
Blood work can determined if there is any other underlying health problem you are not aware of such as kidney, thyroid, blood clotting and yes, chromosome testing for you and your DH/partner. All my testing came back fine, but I was still prescribed progesterone suppositories to start as soon as I got a BFP as this has worked for some and doesn't harm you (according to my OB) regardless, so best to try it. It's in case the body is not producing enough progesterone during the first crucial weeks. Also a daily low dose aspirin to help prevent any minor blood clotting (even tho' my tests for major clotting came back fine) as minor clotting may also interfere with the fertilized egg during those first weeks.
Those are just a few things that come to mind. They wouldn't do the chromosome testing here until after 3 losses.
Some here have also gone on medications such as Clomid and have had success.
I wish you luck and please come back here. There is a great group of ladies here for support. It's a great place to share info, tears, whatever you need...yes even laughs b/c they definitely help us thru this roller coaster ride of emotions.
Barb
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Post by soleil on Oct 5, 2006 3:53:46 GMT -5
Hi Amber, I'm so sorry to hear that this has happend to you twice now, it's a heart breaking experience I know what you're going through as I have also had two in a row and I found that the second time was much harder to get through than the first. As sunprincess said, there are quite a few of us on this forum who have had more than one and you need to know that this doesn't necessarily mean that there's an underlying problem. The answer is that we don't know whether it will happen again, but we have to find the strength to keep trying. There are many tests that can be done to check for problems that may cause another but usually doctors wait until there have been three BOs or MCs. If you're really struggling, try to request these tests earlier. I haven't had any testing done yet, but my doctor put me on progesterone suppositories in order to lengthen my luteal phase. My LP was from 11-13 days long which is a bit short. If you also have a short LP, its worth discussing this with your doctor. If my next pregnancy is another BO, they will perform tests then. I'm feeling more positive in recent months as I know that even if the next time is another BO, then hopefully we'll get some answers. Try to stay positive (I know it's hard!) and good luck! We're here for you. BIG Hugs Helen
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Post by babyhope2006 on Oct 5, 2006 6:26:42 GMT -5
HI Amber, My heart goes out to you. I just experienced by first BO and cannot imagine how I would feel if my next attempt ended the same way. I am sorry that I do not have any words of wisdom, but I am truly sorry to hear that you are going through this. There are so may wonderful people on this site who will be able to do so much more for you than I can. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. babyhope2006
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Post by mamabear on Oct 5, 2006 10:25:58 GMT -5
Dearest Amber, I am so very very sorry for your losses.Yes it is very confusing to be told that this "normally" occurs 1 time, "normally " to 1st time pregnancies? I had my 1st undiagnosed m/c in 1993. DS in 2002. (so I thought all was well, most 1st time pregnancies in my family end in m/c) 1st diagnosed BO in April 2005, 2nd BO October 4, 2005.. Yesterday was hard for me, as Dh nor family recognized the anniversary of my lost one. After the 2nd BO (because it was a 3rd loss, even though it wasnt consecutive) We both had testing, chromosonal, antibody, and a few others. it took a couple of weeks to get back most of the results (all were normal) took longer to get back chromosonal (they have to grow them in a petrid dish...... and by then we had begun TTCing for the 1st time after loss. That test came back normal. Due to my age (40) Dr stated that I was diagnosed with "Old Eggs" (I actually have that on paper as a diagnosis. They stated that since all tests were normal, they would advise against genetic counseling until i was pregnant again. (we had genetic counseling w/DS and everything was fine then) Now at the age of 41 (DH is 50) I am 35 weeks preg and doing well. So there is hope for us all, we just have to keep having faith It is not an easy road that we are on right now. No one, unless they have suffered a loss, truly understands. And then sometimes , if others have suffered a loss, they still cant comprehend the emotions and anger and feelings that we have.... I am so very sorry that you have experienced these 2 losses of very much wanted angels, but you are here with us now and we will be here for you. Hugs and tears and prayers and sympathy. Mamabear. If your Dr is willing to perform blood tests, I would suggest getting them done. Wouldnt hurt and several blood clotting or low progesterone, etc have been diagnosed and women here have received proper treatment and gone on to have happy healthy pregnancies and babies..... Thinking of you, MB
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Post by mzr on Oct 5, 2006 12:18:31 GMT -5
Amber- I am so sorry for your losses! Even though you are so young, many Drs will offer testing such as the other women suggested after 2 losses - especially to help your and DH's mental well-being. I've only had 1 pregnancy loss but it was my first pregnancy so I understand your fear to try again. From the women on this site, I have learned that it is important to allow yourself time to grieve and heal.
You are in my thoughts! -Marisa
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Post by amber on Oct 5, 2006 12:32:21 GMT -5
Thanks everyone for your words of support. My DH and I have been talking since we found out the bad news yesterday. Sad because I took the first loss harder than he did . But the Second Loss he is taking much harder than I am. He blames himself for having bad sperm, but i remind him it could also be my egg that was bad, or neither. My last loss I decided to have a D&C done, but this time I have decided to let my body deal with it under the watchful eyes of my OB Doctor. I have never done this and I am a little scared, if any of you have tried this, please let me know if it went smoothly. Everything I have read and what my OB Doc says has lead me to believe that the body is perfectly capable of passing tissue at 7 weeks. But I do worry about the risk of infection, and the possible pain and complications that could go wrong. Any advice would be helpful. I also want to thank you all for your kind words of encouragement, it' so nice to talk with someone who has gone/or is going through what I am and understand how I feel. I tried to turn to my mother who has never lost a child, but it seemed to only make me feel worse. As she just tries to find reason why the baby shouldn't have been born yet. I know she doesn't mean to hurt me, but he words do hurt and I have told her that. I guess all I need is to be told it's OK and many woman feel the same as I do. That is why its so reassuring to read your posts. (((HUGS))) Amber
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Post by kalika1349 on Oct 5, 2006 13:01:17 GMT -5
You can m/c naturally at 7 weeks. The tissue will probably pass just fine. I too had a d&c w/ my first b/o, and about 3 weeks ago, I m/c'ed again. I don't know for sure if it was a b/o, but I believe it was. My dr. told me that m/c would feel like labor. It didn't. I had bad "period" cramps and passed the placenta in tact. So I only had one piece of actual tissue that passed, the rest was blood and it only took 5 days from start to finish to m/c. My story may not be common and I know that w/ b/o's it usually takes awhile to even start m/c'ing. That's why I had the d&c w/ the first. I was at 14 weeks before I had to have the d&c done. So you can do it naturally and I've also heard women on here talk about taking a pill to induce the m/c. Whatever you decide to do, just make sure that once your body is done m/c you get an u/s to make sure that all of the placenta is out.
I'm sorry if I'm being very graphic, I just wanted to try to answer your questions the best I could.
I wish you the best to make it through this hard time.
Amber
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Post by mamabear on Oct 5, 2006 15:54:47 GMT -5
Amber, I utilized medication and pain pilss with the 1st BO. As i was already spotting and cramping. Alot of women here will post soon I am sure to tell you their experiences and how herbal rememdies (tea, etc) helped get them thru a natural m/c. It is a very personal choice. I am so very sorry your DH is blaming himself. It is not a fault issue, I know my DH did that too, as did I and at least finding these great women here, gave my peace of mind that my losses were not my fault nor were they DH's.
i wish you the best and a quick recovery. Hugs we are all here for you. MB
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Post by tumbles on Oct 5, 2006 16:47:46 GMT -5
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Post by amber on Oct 5, 2006 16:52:05 GMT -5
It is so strange how stress effects our bodies. My neck is so stiff this afternoon and hurts when i turn my head to the right, Luckily I am getting in A.S.A.P. to my Chiropractor later this afternoon. I feel so bad for my DH, I called to check on him at work and he sounded so sad. I am just not sure how to comfort him. I told him we should do something relaxing together to get our minds of the pain even if it is just for a short while. Any relaxation techniques that have helped you out? I am open to ideas. my poor DH I feel like I need to be strong for him, I'm going out of my way to help him feel better. Also trying to help myself to, this kind of personal tragedy is so heartbreaking. Effects us all. Thanks for the posts so far...they have all helped me out a great deal. Amber
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Post by dawnc on Oct 5, 2006 19:06:04 GMT -5
Hi Amber First off I am soo sorry for your loss. I have had two b/o also...one april 06 and another aug 06....This site has been my rock. Everyone on here is soo suportive. I had DnC with both of mine and I think you are a very stong lady to be able to go through natural m/c. Lots of hugs and prayers! Dawn
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Post by mommy2brayden&Isaac on Oct 5, 2006 21:21:58 GMT -5
Hi Amber~I'm so sorry that your experiencing another loss. But yes it is possible to have more than one BO. Myself, I had 3 consecutive BO's the last one in June 05' and became PG w/ Isaac now 4mths in Aug.05'. I had alot of testing done and all was normal, my problem was a short luteal phase. I took a fertility drug called Clomid and also progesterone and conceived the first mth. I guess what I would suggest is to have testing done just to rule anything out, hopefully everything would come back normal. Also, keep track of your cycle by charting your temp. every morning to see if and when you are ovulating, this helped me alot...I found out that I was ovulating way to late in my cycle and this was causing the BO's. You might need some extra progesterone, it's hard to tell but DON"T give up!!!There's was times that I felt like it but I didn't and know I have a h&h 4mth old...so please hang in there, there is light at the end of the tunnel (I know that's hard to see right now!) (((HUGS))) Shauna
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Post by mommy2brayden&Isaac on Oct 5, 2006 21:29:09 GMT -5
Just wanted to add that I add d&c's w/ all 3 of my BO's from not passing the tissue at all, I'm talking we waited until I was supposed to be close to 3mths and still did not pass anything. Anyway, the recovery was not bad at all & the procedures were quick and easy. They put me out all 3 times so I don't remember anything, my longest one lasted a total of 15min...so not along time at all. If you can & want to see if you can let it pass naturally, it will be much easier on your body and it's the "natural" way like it's intended to be. Good luck & stay strong! Shauna
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Post by boots on Oct 6, 2006 12:49:28 GMT -5
Hi Amber,
Sorry the rest of your body is also feeling the stress of this event. You can certainly m/c naturally, it is a personal choice unless your dr. advises you otherwise for some medical reason.
My only suggestion would be to make sure you get a follow-up u/s when you think it is complete to ensure that everything is out. That will rule out any possible infections you were worried about. The follow-up should be routine, but I have heard of some who had dr.'s not do it. Be sure to ask if he/she doesn't suggest it.
Take care honey and try a little yoga or lay on the floor with eyes closed, candlelight and easy music and try to relax and de-stress. I know it's very, very difficult to clear your head at this time, but it might help to clear the strain from your muscles. Barb
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Post by rachelthea on Oct 10, 2006 12:53:46 GMT -5
I just experienced my second blighted ovum as well. It is so difficult, and so difficult to have hope that it will work out next time. I'm so sorry you're going through this as well.
Both times I used medication to "speed up" the miscarriage. This time it is taking much longer for it to be over - I'm still bleeding after nearly 20 days, and they have questions about whether my hormone levels are going down fast enough. It's a bit stressful not knowing whether it is over with or not.
I was very interested to read mommy2brayden&Isaac's response about late ovulation and a short luteal phase perhaps having something to do with the BOs. I seem to ovulate really late (day 18 in a 28 day cycle), and thus have a very short luteal phase. I'll have to ask my doctor about that.
It must be hard for you to try to think about providing support for your DH at this time that I'm sure is very difficult for you, too. It definitely sounds like a good idea for the two of you to do something enjoyable and relaxing together, even though it is hard to do that when you are grieving. It's difficult to give ourselves permission to take a break from the grieving, so to speak, and to take care of our other needs. I hope you are able to find a way to do it!
Take care, Rachel
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Post by krazeej25 on Oct 10, 2006 19:12:27 GMT -5
Thinking of you! So sorry for your losses!!! BIG HUGS!!!!!!!!!!! You will be in my thoughts and prayers. -Jen
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Post by mzr on Oct 11, 2006 7:19:02 GMT -5
I am so sorry for your losses, Amber.
In terms of relaxation things to do- My DH and I ordered pizza and watched cheesy comedies after my D&C to try to relax and laugh (plus, no dishes to clean up afterwards!) But it is also important to allow yourself (and your DH) the time to grieve. Last week we ordered take out and talked about our what we were feeling. I think we forget how lucky we are as women to have other women to talk to about our pain. Hopefully we can be strong for you so you can be strong for your DH.
Take care of yourself! M
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